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07-31-2013, 03:52 PM #1
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Consistant timing pull regardless of fuel source
I keep getting timing pull when running 2nd - 3rd gear logs. I have traction control fully off, slow to let RPM's steady, then pull through the top of third.
I've tried multiple stations, and have even tried running a 91 map on 93 fuel. Still end up with massive corrections across at least 5 cylinders.
Map is Cobb Stg1 aggressive + FMIC.
Take a look at my attached log and give me any ideas?
7-31-13 1145 2nd to 3rd down 441s to 41n ramp - 7-31-13 Mobile 93 fill up on Prospect - Cobb St.zip
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07-31-2013, 03:54 PM #2
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07-31-2013, 04:19 PM #3
Are you Auto or 6MT?
What ROM type?
The timing corrections are only occurring post shift, at least in this log. That's pretty normal, i would honestly not even worry about. If you wanted to be "extra safe" you could reduce your timing target in the load cells where you are falling post shift, but i really don't think its worth it.2015 F10 M5 \ Alpinweiss
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07-31-2013, 04:26 PM #4
MOTIV750, MOTIV P-1000 PI, MOTIV/FUEL-IT! low pressure fuel system, AEM EMS/COBB AP, Aquamist HFS-3, ETS FMIC, SPEC stage 3+ clutch/SS flywheel, BC Racing coilovers and VMR wheels wrapped in Hankook RS3s.
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07-31-2013, 05:16 PM #5
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Cool. Rom is Cobb 93 + FMIC, EJI0S ECU. Manual.
Should I be logging load requested and actual? I could get rid of boost set point and LPFP actual.
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07-31-2013, 06:05 PM #6
Yes, try adding load channels. Also, try shifting slower and see how the car reacts/logs look.
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07-31-2013, 07:00 PM #7
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08-01-2013, 01:43 PM #8
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OK, I re-logged two runs today, which were 3rd gear only, no shifts. Started low in the tac, wide open to about redline.
Logged requested and actual load as well. Still the same problem. Multiple cylinders pulling timing as soon as I get into the midrange.
Does it still look OK, or is this symptomatic of some type of issue?
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08-02-2013, 08:37 AM #9
Boost and fuel control is solid but timing is just being pulled like crazy... I'm assuming you've tried different stations, correct? AT this point i'm almost thinking it's hardware related(plugs).
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08-02-2013, 04:51 PM #10
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I've tried different stations, and even on Cobb 91, with 93 in the tank, I have the same problem.
Plugs were replaced ~5k ago with Bosch OEM equivalents. Was starting to get a misfire.
I'm thinking maybe I need to switch to NGK's and close the gap a little?
Also, my low pressure fuel sensor is bad (throwing a 29F3). Not sure that would make a difference with timing, though.
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