VF-Engineering VF620 BMW E9X (E90) M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit install photos, videos, and before/after dyno on 91 octane

[Sticky]

The VF-Engineering kit may have been the last to market of the major US players for the S65 V8 in the M3 but it definitely is making some waves. The M3 receiving the install here is an E90 with DCT. The baseline on the car completely stock was a very healthy 351 wheel horsepower on the EAS dynojet. After the install? 521 wheel horsepower on 91 octane. A very healthy gain of 170 wheel horsepower which is a realistic gain on 91 octane.

Installation generally takes about 3 business days.

[Forced Air]

Clean looking hardware, very linear curve as well. Whats the damage($)?

[LostMarine]

about $13k
keep in mind, i think thats 6 psi, possibly 7, and that specific dyno is on stock exhaust..

oh decisions decisions..

[ultimateendz]

so this is basically making as much as ESS VT-650 kit(which should prob be named VT-600)

[Mike@VAC]

Love that black blower

[LostMarine]

Love that black blower

as do I

so this is basically making as much as ESS VT-650 kit(which should prob be named VT-600)

well, its all subjective, and dynos are dyno's. but trap speeds are trap speeds, and this kit has gone as fast as a 650 kit, with, as you already know, also set the ET and E9X record..no small feat since most believe some wheel spin resuts in higher MPH, so a great ET with a High MPH shows MUCH better performance than a high MPH and slower ET.. we can all draw our own conclusions on that

[Forced Air]

about $13k
keep in mind, i think thats 6 psi, possibly 7, and that specific dyno is on stock exhaust..

oh decisions decisions..

That ///M tax sure is a bitch. Guess it performs well though.

[0-60Motorsports]

Nice work

[Sorena]

oh decisions decisions..

This is the kit to get apparently for you. Solid numbers and i think Vac is local to you, right?

[Yukohama]

this thing sure does perform. hopefully we'll get some real world comparisons soon

[Mike@VAC]

That ///M tax sure is a $#@!. Guess it performs well though.

It's less ///M tax than low volume tax. Look at the Edelbrock e-Force kit for late model domestics. Absolutely AMAZING kit - Eaton TVS (same as ZR1), self contained oil, a/w IC, CARB approved for $6-8k. They sell TONS of these kits, so prices can be kept down. BMW volume is super low in comparison, so the mfgrs much charge 'more'

[ERM324]

very simple kit!

[LostMarine]

It's less ///M tax than low volume tax. Look at the Edelbrock e-Force kit for late model domestics. Absolutely AMAZING kit - Eaton TVS (same as ZR1), self contained oil, a/w IC, CARB approved for $6-8k. They sell TONS of these kits, so prices can be kept down. BMW volume is super low in comparison, so the mfgrs much charge 'more'

you guys should see if you can do some research.. see what happens if you do a limited 1 month run of this kit for say $8k+install, and see how many people jump on it. would be interesting and im sure a few on the fence would jump on. (and no, im not suggesting thats what im looking for, i really would like to know if the price is keeping people from buying)

just a thought

[ultimateendz]

It's less ///M tax than low volume tax. Look at the Edelbrock e-Force kit for late model domestics. Absolutely AMAZING kit - Eaton TVS (same as ZR1), self contained oil, a/w IC, CARB approved for $6-8k. They sell TONS of these kits, so prices can be kept down. BMW volume is super low in comparison, so the mfgrs much charge 'more'

lol...gotta LOVE american muscle...a 2.9L whipple with all parts would cost 7k and be CARB approved....a totally one off custom TT kit would be 14k which would be more like 20somethingK if it was on a BMW

[dzenno@PTF]

simple! and it works! Win in my books for sure..price could take a cut though, way too high

[Forced Air]

It's less ///M tax than low volume tax. Look at the Edelbrock e-Force kit for late model domestics. Absolutely AMAZING kit - Eaton TVS (same as ZR1), self contained oil, a/w IC, CARB approved for $6-8k. They sell TONS of these kits, so prices can be kept down. BMW volume is super low in comparison, so the mfgrs much charge 'more'

True....but the S/C kits (MP90 first, now TVS) and even the T/C kits (only like 10 ever made) were only $5k. And they are very low volume, of equal component quality and honestly higher show quality. Hyundai 2.7 Delta motor.

How many S/C M3s are there right now?

[LostMarine]

simple! and it works! Win in my books for sure..price could take a cut though, way too high

hes got a good point on the quantity part, i cant hold that gaianst any of these companies for that, but i would like to see if a lower price would move more units.

BUT, your 100% on the first part, simple and effective, just how we like it

[ERM324]

Feel like the manifold needs some work, looks pretty stock looking. At the end of the day I think ESS has the best mani

[LostMarine]

Feel like the manifold needs some work, looks pretty stock looking. At the end of the day I think ESS has the best mani

as far as look, i would agree, without a doubt, the ess mani looks the best of any.
but remember, form follows function. since its not their first mani version, im betting they did some hardcore R&D to make sure it performs far above the rest. of course that is speculation. But looking at performance you can safely assume it does. less boost than any other kit and equal/better performance is a testament to that.

it kinda reminds me of an article I just read on kennebelle.com about hood open vs close and "cold air intakes" vs real cold air kits on dyno's

[ERM324]

I'd love to set something up with the VAC VF car I'd be willing to meet halfway

[LostMarine]

This is the kit to get apparently for you. Solid numbers and i think Vac is local to you, right?

Im not making a decision until ive done what i can do N/A, and even then, only when im ready to actually make the phone call and drop the car off somewhere

[Sorena]

Im not making a decision until ive done what i can do N/A, and even then, only when im ready to actually make the phone call and drop the car off somewhere

Some really want you to be on their side, your decision on SC kit will either please or piss them

[LostMarine]

Some really want you to be on their side, your decision on SC kit will either please or piss them

yea, i dont like that every thread turns to me about when ill get one though.
I was/am contemplating just a stg 1 kit though. I dont want the spotlight. I want to enjoy my car w/o being constantly judged and showcased for what it can/cant do.

I do have voicemails from a few people i still need to listen to though


but i do want stg2 power, and i want to continue to meet up with locals and do the VS stuff and post videos, just dont want the BS that comes with.. thats my problem..

[Sorena]

i dont like that every thread turns to me about when ill get one though.

Sorry then. I asked you about this in a few threads.

but i do want stg2 power, and i want to continue to meet up with locals and do the VS stuff and post videos, just dont want the BS that comes with.. thats my problem..

I hear you. But at the end, like it or not you are gonna get involved in BS.
If you go with ESS, you will be really close to the source of BS.
If you go with other kits (AA, G-Power, VF), fanboys (mostly ESS fanboys) will drag you into BS by questioning your kit.
If you go with Gintani, same as above will happen but much harder.

S65 FI scene is the BS.

[LostMarine]

Sorry then. I asked you about this in a few threads.

I hear you. But at the end, like it or not you are gonna get involved in BS.
If you go with ESS, you will be really close to the source of BS.
If you go with other kits (AA, G-Power, VF), fanboys (mostly ESS fanboys) will drag you into BS by questioning your kit.
If you go with Gintani, same as above will happen but much harder.

S65 FI scene is the BS.

LOL, your pretty spot on with all of that